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  If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

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  sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?

  ' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?

  ' what do you folks say?.

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  Sea Breeze

  Now that is the point, isn't it?

  No, of course that is not the point. I suspect that you are merely pretending to not get the point.

  Why not just explain how your new philosophy views where information comes from? It is a simple enough question that I'm sure you can see the importance of. But, I doubt you will attempt to address this.

  All the same, if you and your top thinkers in scientific-naturalism can't find a suitable unguided and unintelligent information source, then:

  Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

  -Arthur Conan Doyle
  

  So for me, this is the dock where I get off the scientific-naturalism boat. In your OP you asked the question; Why? The point is that the thought restrictions that your new philosophy dictates to you, are simply not acceptable to me. But, you are welcome to ride that boat all you want.

  Not for Sea Breeze though. Thought freedom and truth matters to me. Setting sail for those shores.
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  If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?

  ' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?

  ' what do you folks say?.

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  Sea Breeze

  DJW,
  
  Newton had a practice of thinking outside of "settled" science (and theology). This helped him shape his three laws of gravity. However, Einstein (another believer in God) later proved Newton to be wrong about the laws of gravity.
  

  So, Newton was wrong about a lot of stuff. He believed in alchemy and that you could create gold from other metals. So what? That's not the point is it?

  The point is that like the Roman Catholic Church did in times past, the scientific materialists / naturalists attempt to STOP rational thoughts that don't confine themselves to their dogma.

  They support their illogical belief systems by pretending to not to know a lot of things.... like where information comes from:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-FcnLsF1g&ab_channel=DiscoveryScience
  

  Professor Richard Lewontin (1929–2021), a geneticist (and self-proclaimed Marxist), explains how this ideology restricts thought. He wrote this very revealing comment (the italics were in the original). It illustrates the implicit philosophical bias against Genesis creation—regardless of whether or not the facts support it.

  ‘Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.

  It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.

  Again, no thanks.
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  If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?

  ' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?

  ' what do you folks say?.

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  Sea Breeze

  Sometimes JWs wonder if the WT/JW is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?' I say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism

  For me, it is because it acts like a giant cult. No thanks.

  "In a recent court case involving the right of the ICR Graduate School to teach science from a Biblical perspective, a physics professor from California State University at Long Beach testified that if Isaac Newton were on the school's faculty today, his position on creation would prevent the school from being recognized by the State of California. This professor objected to statements such as the following in Mathematica Principia where Newton said:

  "This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all, and on account of His dominion He is wont to be called Lord God, Universal Ruler.".

  When questioned how this professor could make such a statement about one who is recognized as possibly the greatest scientist who ever lived, he replied that if Isaac Newton persisted in maintaining a creationist position as he did in Mathematica Principia, knowing what we know today, he would not be recognized as a credible scientist."

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  The JW governing body are ALREADY priests!

  by BoogerMan in

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  how many jw's are aware they have "priests?".

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  9 jehovah hates the course of treachery - "comparably, for more than a century now, the anointed brothers of christ, those with the heavenly hope, have served as “a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to god.”.

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  Sea Breeze

  Kings Dr..... that's funny. They can take the silver spoons out of their mouths and start digging their own graves with them. They will not win this fight they have picked.

  
  
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  The JW governing body are ALREADY priests!

  by BoogerMan in

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  how many jw's are aware they have "priests?".

  w02 5/1 p. 16 par.

  9 jehovah hates the course of treachery - "comparably, for more than a century now, the anointed brothers of christ, those with the heavenly hope, have served as “a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to god.”.

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  Sea Breeze

  I'll bet they wish they were already kings as well!

  I'm pretty sure they already believe that - they certainly act like it. They teach that they were appointed over all the things that Jesus has authority over. Since Jesus said that all authority had been given him in heaven and earth, at the very least they consider themselves kings of planet earth - RIGHT NOW

  The apostle Paul ran into the same sort of narcissists... nothing new. Just don't step in it.

  [You behave as if] you are already filled [with spiritual wisdom and in need of nothing more]. Already you have become rich [in spiritual gifts]! You [in your conceit] have ascended your thrones and become kings without us 1 Cor. 4:8 Amplified Bible

  
  
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

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  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  Sea Breeze

  DJW / Anony Mouse:
  
  The BB theory has a history of failed predictions and only explains about 5% of the universe according to its own theory. That alone is pretty shocking. So, it's really not much of a theory when dissected. This former engineer with the U.S. military's space program, breaks it down bit by bit:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQsb5H3xLI&ab_channel=ItHasBeenWritten
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  For Born-Ins - If You Were 18 Again, What 7 Things Would You do Differently?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  here's mine:.

  1. go immediately to college and study construction management.

  2. set up an ira and start contributing every year.

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  Sea Breeze

  PofN,

  Just get married to the right woman and all that is taken care of.

  Been working for thousands of years.
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  For Born-Ins - If You Were 18 Again, What 7 Things Would You do Differently?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  here's mine:.

  1. go immediately to college and study construction management.

  2. set up an ira and start contributing every year.

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  Sea Breeze

  I had 20k buried in my dads backyard by the time I was 21 in ‘84. Not a bad nest egg for working a sales job. Anyway, could be a solid goal for an 18 YO.

  I should have spent every penny on a DP on my own house. Didn’t do it and it slowly disappeared.
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  For Born-Ins - If You Were 18 Again, What 7 Things Would You do Differently?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's mine:.

  1. go immediately to college and study construction management.

  2. set up an ira and start contributing every year.

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  Sea Breeze

  Here's Mine:

  1. Go immediately to college and study construction management.

  2. Set up an IRA and start contributing every year

  3. Invest in as much income producing real estate as possible

  4. Leave the JW's for good, join a local-run church & get saved asap.

  5. Write a book about what it was like growing up JW

  6. Never Get baptized as a JW

  7. Except that I am an orphan and don't feel bad about it. Sh*t happens.
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  Virgin or whore complex that Witnesses have made my married life difficult!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so was a virgin when i got married but my wife studied later in life and had been married for 6 months and had two boyfriends in her past.

  my strict witness mother hated my wife and thought she was not good enough for me.

  she thought all worldly women were dirty whores who cannot keep their vaginas to themselves.

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  Sea Breeze

  “I heard of more sexual affairs in a kingdom hall then work.”
  

  Me too. Totally different than the fake picture they put up front and center.